Comments on: Another Brain Fart on Why Open Source is Bad http://pathfindersoftware.com/2007/12/another-brain-f/ The Fastest Way to Launch Successful Software Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:36:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: o.s. http://pathfindersoftware.com/2007/12/another-brain-f/#comment-7577 o.s. Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:23:19 +0000 http://www.pathf.com/blogs/?p=125#comment-7577 <p>Oh and Sammy you're spot on about the second biggest weaknesses of open source software. Open source software seems to be designed to be as user-hostile as humanly possible.</p> Oh and Sammy you’re spot on about the second biggest weaknesses of open source software. Open source software seems to be designed to be as user-hostile as humanly possible.

]]> By: o.s. http://pathfindersoftware.com/2007/12/another-brain-f/#comment-7576 o.s. Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:18:48 +0000 http://www.pathf.com/blogs/?p=125#comment-7576 <p>I really don't understand the open source business model. Explain to me realistically how I'm supposed to get paid if all the software is free? I've seen statements that all the money can be made on support and documentation and such but won't some programmer just look at the code and create a patch or just suggest a workaround and post it on the web? I like having money and being able to pay bills but open source's busineess model seems to conflict with these goals. <br /> </p> I really don’t understand the open source business model. Explain to me realistically how I’m supposed to get paid if all the software is free? I’ve seen statements that all the money can be made on support and documentation and such but won’t some programmer just look at the code and create a patch or just suggest a workaround and post it on the web? I like having money and being able to pay bills but open source’s busineess model seems to conflict with these goals.

]]> By: Paul Davis http://pathfindersoftware.com/2007/12/another-brain-f/#comment-7575 Paul Davis Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:43:04 +0000 http://www.pathf.com/blogs/?p=125#comment-7575 <p>Might as well add linux considering the http response header:<br /> Zope 2.9.6-final (python 2.4.0, linux2; ZServer/1.1 Plone/2.5.2)</p> <p>Then again, it's possible they are running windows/iis and faking the response headers (i doubt it)</p> Might as well add linux considering the http response header:
Zope 2.9.6-final (python 2.4.0, linux2; ZServer/1.1 Plone/2.5.2)

Then again, it’s possible they are running windows/iis and faking the response headers (i doubt it)

]]> By: Paul Davis http://pathfindersoftware.com/2007/12/another-brain-f/#comment-7574 Paul Davis Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:27:54 +0000 http://www.pathf.com/blogs/?p=125#comment-7574 <p>Funny considering that 20 seconds of work shows that DiscoverMagazine.com runs on open source software:<br /> Plone<br /> Zope<br /> Squid</p> Funny considering that 20 seconds of work shows that DiscoverMagazine.com runs on open source software:
Plone
Zope
Squid

]]> By: T.J. http://pathfindersoftware.com/2007/12/another-brain-f/#comment-7573 T.J. Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:37:46 +0000 http://www.pathf.com/blogs/?p=125#comment-7573 <p>Without open source, Ajax wouldn't exist, we'd have some weird JScript.NET ActiveX hybrid that work with IE6.5. Without open source software would be so bloated with slick graphics and ridiculous swap file hits that it'd seem like the first time you loaded up Windows 3.1 again.</p> <p>I don't think you can argue one way or the other that open/closed source is the best and thats all that should exist. It's a very mutually beneficial relationship (think Firefox and Android). </p> Without open source, Ajax wouldn’t exist, we’d have some weird JScript.NET ActiveX hybrid that work with IE6.5. Without open source software would be so bloated with slick graphics and ridiculous swap file hits that it’d seem like the first time you loaded up Windows 3.1 again.

I don’t think you can argue one way or the other that open/closed source is the best and thats all that should exist. It’s a very mutually beneficial relationship (think Firefox and Android).

]]> By: James Wachitt http://pathfindersoftware.com/2007/12/another-brain-f/#comment-7572 James Wachitt Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:29:23 +0000 http://www.pathf.com/blogs/?p=125#comment-7572 <p>Has he been to Linuxdevices.com? Embedded Linux?<br /> And why do people *increasingly* choose RedHat and SLES over UNIXes?<br /> Java? <br /> Transmeta/Crusoe? virtualization?<br /> And talking of good-looking design, do a Youtube search for Beryl, Compiz and Metisse. No really, right now. <br /> See that spinning cube? It's "opensource/Linux".<br /> You're free to draw your own conclusions.</p> Has he been to Linuxdevices.com? Embedded Linux?
And why do people *increasingly* choose RedHat and SLES over UNIXes?
Java?
Transmeta/Crusoe? virtualization?
And talking of good-looking design, do a Youtube search for Beryl, Compiz and Metisse. No really, right now.
See that spinning cube? It’s “opensource/Linux”.
You’re free to draw your own conclusions.

]]> By: Jon Gilkison http://pathfindersoftware.com/2007/12/another-brain-f/#comment-7571 Jon Gilkison Wed, 02 Jan 2008 00:17:55 +0000 http://www.pathf.com/blogs/?p=125#comment-7571 <p>Hypercard was created by Bill Atkinson, not Ward Cunningham and it was hardly "sucky". It was the first authoring environment of its kind and came into popularity well before the web. I'm guessing you missed the initial rush of HyperCard lest you would understand the impact it had. Whether or not it was open or closed source has little bearing on its worth as a software product. The fact that it was FREE was ground breaking for that time on a commercial OS/Platform. You need to understand that at this time, "open source" was strictly in the realm of academia, almost no commercial interests even considered it, so the both of you are kind of wrong.</p> <p>Also, if you had done some basic research you would know that Cunningham built his WikiWikiWeb in 1994 BASED on IDEAS he had implemented in HyperCard in the late 80's. Sounds like a real turd to me - the fact that he could prototype an idea like that well ahead of the mainstream web.</p> <p>I'm not sure who is coming across as the biggest idiot or "technical ignoramus" here, him or you. </p> Hypercard was created by Bill Atkinson, not Ward Cunningham and it was hardly “sucky”. It was the first authoring environment of its kind and came into popularity well before the web. I’m guessing you missed the initial rush of HyperCard lest you would understand the impact it had. Whether or not it was open or closed source has little bearing on its worth as a software product. The fact that it was FREE was ground breaking for that time on a commercial OS/Platform. You need to understand that at this time, “open source” was strictly in the realm of academia, almost no commercial interests even considered it, so the both of you are kind of wrong.

Also, if you had done some basic research you would know that Cunningham built his WikiWikiWeb in 1994 BASED on IDEAS he had implemented in HyperCard in the late 80′s. Sounds like a real turd to me – the fact that he could prototype an idea like that well ahead of the mainstream web.

I’m not sure who is coming across as the biggest idiot or “technical ignoramus” here, him or you.

]]> By: Thomas Hansen http://pathfindersoftware.com/2007/12/another-brain-f/#comment-7570 Thomas Hansen Wed, 02 Jan 2008 00:00:13 +0000 http://www.pathf.com/blogs/?p=125#comment-7570 <p>On your list of really cool and innovative FOSS samples, you forgot to mention us ( <a href="http://ajaxwidgets.com" rel="nofollow">http://ajaxwidgets.com</a> ) but that was probably just a glitch ;)</p> <p>Thomas</p> On your list of really cool and innovative FOSS samples, you forgot to mention us ( http://ajaxwidgets.com ) but that was probably just a glitch ;)

Thomas

]]> By: Sammy http://pathfindersoftware.com/2007/12/another-brain-f/#comment-7569 Sammy Tue, 01 Jan 2008 23:22:49 +0000 http://www.pathf.com/blogs/?p=125#comment-7569 <p>Right, Firefox is a derivative of Netscape Navigator.</p> <p>I think his point stands. Open-source is great at building developer goodies, good at building software for systems administrators, and sucky at building software for non-technical users.</p> Right, Firefox is a derivative of Netscape Navigator.

I think his point stands. Open-source is great at building developer goodies, good at building software for systems administrators, and sucky at building software for non-technical users.

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